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Sept. 27, 2023

#27 - Building Community, Reporting to CEOs, and Choosing Vendors with Sarah Irwin, Head of Legal at Tines

In this episode of Pearls On, Gloves Off: Community at its Finest. Dive into the Irish Tech General Council, chaired and founded by Sarah. The LinkedIn Guru. Sarah’s insightful pieces on legal operations and tech are a must-read. A Seat at the Table. Why GCs need to report directly to the CEO in a rapidly expanding company. Choosing a CLM Provider. Sarah's playbook for picking a contract lifecycle management provider. Plus, a golden scorecard and RFP template! Burnout and AI. Sarah’s perspec...
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Sept. 15, 2023

#26 - Hosting Ironclad Live with La'Resa Young, Sunil Jamal, Charles Hurr

In this special episode of Pearls On, Gloves off: This isn't your regular episode. It's a mashup of three scintillating conversations from the one and only contracts talk show, Ironclad Live, which Mary hosted in Dallas on September 7th. Dive in as Mary engages with legal luminaries from St. Jude Hospital, the Houston Texans, and L'Oréal. Conversation 1: St. Jude Hospital with La'Resa Young Mary and La'Resa highlight the heart and soul of St. Jude: its mission and the importance of fostering a ...
Aug. 29, 2023

#25 - Empowering Legal Ops Leadership with Alex Kelly at Brightflag

On this episode, , Co-Founder and COO at , joins Mary in the world of podcasting, legal operations and the evolving landscape of legal technology. Alex shares his experience running a podcast called "In-House Outliers," featuring conversations with...
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Aug. 14, 2023

#24 - Digital Transformation in Legal Ops with Aine Lyons at VMware

On this episode, , Senior Vice President and Deputy General Counsel at , joins Mary to talk about legal ops, her time at VMware and new technologies. More than a decade ago, Aine was approached by a former GC at VMware about taking on legal ops. She...
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Aug. 2, 2023

#23 - Engagement as a GC Superpower with Lisa Gilley at Higher Logic

On this episode, , Chief Legal Officer at , joins Mary to talk about, among other things, community and engagement and how the Higher Logic platform allows organizations to give their community a home where they can interact, share ideas, answer...
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June 19, 2023

#22 - Creating Technology for Legal Ops with Katherine Roseveare and Alex Herrity at Adidas

On this episode, , General Counsel - Global Functions, Global Operations and Legal Solutions, and , Director - Global Legal Solutions at , join Mary to talk about managing technology in a global setting, the creative mindset of their legal team and...
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June 5, 2023

#21 - The Transforming Legal Ecosystem with Liam Brown at Elevate

On this episode, , Founder, Chairman and CEO at , joins Mary to talk about the evolving legal ecosystem, the importance of mentoring, the ways technology continues to help legal department professionals and much more. Liam talks about how his way of...
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May 23, 2023

#20 - How AI Tools Are Transforming the Legal Profession with Cai GoGwilt and Alex Su at Ironclad

On this episode, , Co-Founder and Chief Architect at , and , Head of Community Development at Ironclad, join Mary to talk about generative AI and its effect on the legal industry. ChatGPT can change how people work in many different industries, and...
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May 8, 2023

#19 - Transitioning From Pharma to Tech with Terrene Collins at Panasonic

On this episode, , Director of Legal Operations and Chief of Staff to Chief Legal Officer at , joins Mary to talk about her career path. Like many legal ops professionals, Terrene is seeing massive rate increases from law firms, and she is...
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April 3, 2023

#18 - The Evolution of Legal Ops with Bob Mignanelli at Haleon

On this episode, , VP/COO Legal at , joins Mary to talk about the ever-expanding role of the legal ops team, the ways he and his team contribute to strategic and tactical initiatives, and the importance of asking for an expanded role within the...
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March 20, 2023

#17 - A Culture of Experimentation with Michele Lau at GoDaddy

On this episode, , Chief Legal Officer and Corporate Secretary at , joins Mary to talk about her career path, the evolution of the CLO role, and the company’s embrace of diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging. One of the core values at GoDaddy...
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March 7, 2023

#16 - Humanizing Law Firm Work with Jason Barnwell at Microsoft

On this episode, , General Manager for Digital Transformation of Corporate, External, and Legal Affairs at Microsoft, joins Mary to talk about his title. He describes it as being a professional cheerleader, meaning he is creating the vision for the...
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Feb. 20, 2023

#15 - Private Practice vs. In-House with Mel Scott of Megaport

On this episode, , Senior Legal Counsel (Global) at , joins Mary to talk about her career path, which started in private practice and moved quickly to her current in-house role. Mel starts by talking about her podcast: Counsel - A Podcast for...
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Feb. 7, 2023

#14 - Reinventing Law Firm Leadership with Scott Westfahl at Harvard Law School

On this episode, , Professor of Practice and Faculty Director of Executive Education at , joins Mary to talk about his career journey since graduating from Harvard Law School in 1988, including his time at McKinsey and then at Goodwin Proctor before...
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Jan. 23, 2023

#13 - A Surprising Love for Procurement with Lesley Garafola at Barings

On this episode, , Managing Director, Global Head of Procurement and Vendor Management at , joins Mary to talk about her career history and how it led her to fall in love with procurement, much to her surprise. Lesley began her career at Wells Fargo...
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Jan. 9, 2023

#12 - Legal Life in the NFL with Jill Kelley of the New York Jets

On this episode, , VP of Legal Affairs at the , joins Mary to talk about the many twists and turns in her career which eventually led to her position with the New York Jets. Something that might surprise people is just how small the legal department...
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Dec. 19, 2022

#11 - Being a Legal Ops Pioneer with Reese Arrowsmith of the Campbell Soup Company

On this episode, , VP, Head of Legal Operations at joins Mary to talk about his career in legal ops that started before legal ops existed. We talk about his time in early legal ops software, long before we called it legal ops. This included selling...
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Nov. 29, 2022

#10 - Using Tech for Efficient Legal Ops with Lisa Mango at One Medical

On this episode, , General Counsel at , joins Mary to talk about her career journey, through her move to the Bay Area for litigation work, which expanded into an in-house position, to her current role at One Medical today. Now, as a tech-enabled...
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Oct. 26, 2022

#9 - Airtable’s Ryan Marks Talks Tech Tools for More Efficient LegalOps

In this episode, , Head of Legal at Airtable joins Mary to talk about all ways to create an efficient LegalOps department, the importance of data, and how to avoid the reputation as the “Department of No.” Ryan started his career in litigation,...
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Sept. 27, 2022

#8 - General Counsel Shana Simmons Describes Her Impressive Career in Law and LegalOps

On this episode, Shana Simmons, General Counsel at Everlaw, joins Mary to talk about Shana's career journey. From how Shana got a job as a law firm associate in London to why she left that job and moved to California to work as a contract manager at Google. Shana waxes lyrical about her deep love for Google and what it was like to work at a company that was growing so rapidly. She also shares the tools and skills Shana learned at Google and why she didn't learn them as a lawyer, such as buildin...
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Sept. 13, 2022

#7 - CLO Extraordinaire Niki Armstrong Talks Optimizing, Automating, Innovating, and Scaling Legal Ops

In this episode, Mary is joined by her friend , Chief Legal Officer & Corporate Secretary at , to talk about optimization and innovation in the legal ops space. Niki has had a long and successful career, first as a lawyer and now as a CLO....
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Aug. 30, 2022

#6 - Fergus Speight and Jenny Hacker of Royal London Discuss Legal Ops and Tech in the UK vs. the US

In this episode, Mary is joined by , General Counsel at , and , Head Of Operations - Legal & CoSec at Royal London, to talk about how they created and innovated a legal ops department before it was an established industry. Fergus explains how he...
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Aug. 15, 2022

#5 - Deloitte’s Mark Ross Dives Deep Into CLM Technology

In this episode, Mary is joined by , Principal and Co-Leader at , to discuss his impressive career and his best practices in the legal ops space. Mark began his career in England as a personal injury lawyer before emigrating to the US. Here he...
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July 26, 2022

#4 - Dr. Larry Richard Explains Lawyer Personalities and Psychology

In this episode, Mary is joined by her friend , Founder & Principal Consultant at , to talk about all things lawyers. Many who work in legal operations, or anywhere dealing with contracts, often feel frustrated by their lawyer...