We spark the debates that matter

Pearls On, Gloves Off isn't just another legal podcast. We tackle the controversial topics reshaping legal services—Should law firms eliminate the billable hour? Can AI really make lawyers 20x more efficient? Are traditional firms capable of real innovation?

Our listeners come for honest, unfiltered conversations they can't find anywhere else.

Recent guests include leaders from Anthropic, Intel, Moderna, Harvey AI, Netflix, Microsoft, Salesforce, Deloitte, and more.

To get started, drop us a line at sponsor[at]pearlsonpod.com


Your Host

Mary O'Carroll

Former President of CLOC, Head of Legal Operations at Google, Chief Community Officer at Ironclad, and COO at Goodwin Procter. Mary helped define legal operations and built the global Legal Ops community. She doesn't just cover this space—she created it. When Mary endorses a solution, legal decision-makers listen.


The Audience

Decision-makers with budget authority

Quality Over Quantity 100% of our listeners work in legal. Many control multimillion-dollar budgets for technology, consulting, and legal services.

Deep Engagement 54.5% completion rate (vs ~35% industry average) means listeners stay for the full episode. Your message gets heard, not skipped.

Active Buyers GCs implementing AI strategies, Legal Ops leaders evaluating platforms, partners rethinking business models. They're not casually browsing—they're in buying mode.


By the Numbers

  • 53,000+ total downloads
  • 1,400+ monthly downloads
  • 700+ average downloads per episode
  • +50% year-over-year growth
  • 54.5% completion rate
  • 121 countries reached
  • 62% US-based audience

Sponsorship Packages

We're selective about sponsors to maintain listener trust and ensure strong alignment with our audience. We offer flexible packages to fit your goals.

Mid-Roll Ads Host-read ads by Mary, naturally integrated mid-episode. Available as single episode or multi-episode packages.

Presenting Sponsor Category leadership over multiple months. Your logo on podcast artwork, mention in every episode intro, prominent placement in show notes, and social media promotion.

Executive Guest Episode 45-60 minute interview with your executive. Thought leadership positioning with legal decision-makers. Full distribution and social promotion. Creates a content asset you own.

Integration Bundles Combine a guest episode with mid-roll ads for sustained presence and multiple touchpoints with our audience.


Get Started

We're looking for a small number of sponsors who see the value in reaching legal decision-makers through authentic, thought-provoking content. Let's discuss how we can help you reach GCs and Legal Ops leaders actively transforming their organizations.

Contact: sponsor[at]pearlsonpod.com